Friend Paul’s response to this:

What we always knew folks and W. and i have been saying for years – what dumb bunch of engineers to make this statement now – we have lost the planet.

What about including the energy to make them as well?????? As i have said we need a system of Social Accounting that includes TEE – Total Embodied Energy for the product lifecycle and is included on the label with other ingredients such as cholesterol etc……

+ surprise surprise the battery issue reduces the value of your car massively as it goes onto the second hand market………….. deary dreay me such a headache wading through all this electric vehicle garbology and all for basically a few km’s range – and the Prius cant even be recharged from home. As consumers we are all just in my opinion so damn dumbed down we would have to be to accept this @#$%.